Appeal 33706

Appeal Summary

Status: DENIED

Appeal ID: 33706

Submission Date: 2/24/25 4:56 PM

Hearing Date: 3/6/25

Case #: 25-10

Appeal Type: Fire

Project Type: residential

Building/Business Name: DK Homes

Appeal Involves: Erection of a new structure,other: Cottage Cluster

Proposed use: single family homes

Project Address: 2721 SE 101st ave

Appellant Name: Jim Lashbaugh

LUR or Permit Application #: Permit 2024-016288-000-00-SD

Stories: 2 Occupancy: R-3 Construction Type: type 5

Fire Sprinklers: Yes - Units 4-10

Plans Examiner/Inspector: Dawn Krantz

Plan Submitted Option: pdf   [File 1]

Payment Option: electronic

Appeal Information Sheet

Appeal item 1

Code Section

PFC 503.2.4

Requires

The inside turning radius and outside turning radius shall be not less than 25 ft and 45 ft respectively, measured from the same center point.

Code Modification or Alternate Requested

The outside turning radius of 45' can be met the entire radius of the turn, but the interior radius cannot. We are requesting to provide adequate alternative measures to allow a reduced turning radius due to the pre-existing, non-conforming street width of 101st ave.

Proposed Design

We propose to make the following plan changes:

  1. Increase the Access road approach width to 26 ft (PBOT has been conferred with regarding this request)
  2. Although turning radius cannot be met, we propose to keep the access road at 20' wide with NO PARKING signs posted.
  3. Provide 13D Automatic Sprinklers in units 4-10.
  4. Provide fire resistive siding (fiber cement board) and roofing (composition shingles) for all units.
  5. Eliminate unit #11.
  6. Provide Fire Apparatus Access Road rated asphalt for entire length of access road, not just to within 150' of farthest unit as previously proposed.
Reason for alternative

The required turning radius is not achievable due to the width of 101st ave.. We ask the appeals board to consider the fact that the pre-existing street width is non-conforming, which makes the required turning radius impossible to achieve with the required parking areas on both sides of the street.
I was a firefighter for 28 years (18 as an engineer), and understand the importance of fire access. I also know that we never failed to access a site with a 20 ft wide (or more) entrance with a standard fire engine, even on narrow streets. Adding the extra width to the approach entrance (to 26 ft total) will make the access even easier.
Along with the other changes (providing 20' wide access road the entire length, providing automatic sprinklers, mandating fire resistive siding and roofing, eliminating the farthest unit, and providing fire apparatus access road rated asphalt the entire length of the access road), the accessibility, life safety, and fire protection are vastly improved.

The administrative staff has not yet reviewed this appeal.